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AUA
« on: February 01, 2006, 01:44:55 pm »
Here's a small posting from the old TSW about AUA, a school popular with teachers and students alike:

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I worked at AUA for 10 months. I felt fine at first and then we had a change of managers. The new man wasn't even a teacher, but more like an businessman. Because he wasn't a teacher he seemed to have a lot to prove. What an idiot! The textbook is trash, especially at higher levels. The system is trash. Teachers pay for everything, WP, Visa, etc. They'll return your investment after two years of service - is that a joke? They give you insurance that in reality covers next to nothing. It is a situation where the school expects everything from their teachers and gives them nothing more than a job that can go from good to rotten at any moment. It's probably a good job if you are a young British subject and just starting out, needing something on your resume. Bad pay, managers with low IQs. I'm leaving at contract's end.

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Re: AUA
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 01:47:14 pm »
Here's a company that employs a lot of teachers around Bangkok at its various branches.  From what I hear, some are good and some are bad.  Some people say it's a great place to work for new teachers and yet other teachers snigger at the mention of the name.  Who knows?  It would be interesting to hear more about them, paricularly what the conditions are like at the different franchises and how they vary....

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AUA = Miserable Pay
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2006, 01:01:17 pm »
Hey, Hey,
AUA has miserable pay!

Hey, Hey,
AUA has miserable pay!

24,000 in Bankok TOPS
A naive green teacher
goes there and flops

I remember being 'recruited' by AUA when I was still a green teacher back at TEFL International. What a joke. AUA offered me and my mates 24,000 starting pay in Bangkok, and something like 20,000 in Chiang Mai. We didn't think much of it at the time. Good thing we held out. I ended up getting a job for 42,000. It still doesn't seem enough sometimes, and I'm a scroungin' tightwad.

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Re: AUA
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2006, 04:27:59 pm »
This year I was between semesters without a gig and I worked for them - 12 weeks total.  I had no real valid complaints.  The pay was poor but the job was easy.  There are a lot of disadvantages working for a language institute.  I just completed five weeks at my new gig in a highschool.  So far I've had 9 days paid and didn't have to show up due to S activities and such.  If I figure the hours I actually work, at 33,000B a month I'm making waaaay more than my AUA manager did @ 47,000.

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Re: AUA
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 08:53:26 pm »
AUA was my first job when I landed in LOS. I stayed six months, nothing really bad to say. Sure the pay was poor, but it was always paid in full and on time as promised. The classrooms were a bit dingy, but I saw these before signing up. There were some ?characters? there in the management, but I minded my own business and stayed out of the gossip circles and office politics, so this didn?t affect me much. I was never screwed by the school. I gave notice, finished out the term and walked away with every Baht promised me. What more can you ask? If the pay and conditions don?t fit what you are looking for, don?t work there, but if you are a newbie or someone who values time off more than money, AUA might fit what you are looking for. AUA, what you see is what you get.

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Re: AUA
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2006, 05:00:07 pm »
I worked for AUA's main branch at Rajdamri, and although I stayed there for only 2 months (I had a can't-refuse offer in China, still there) I really have some pleasant memories of the place, and nothing but good to say about my stay there.

First, before you get bored with my details and move on -- let me say it's a real pleasure to be able to work with students other than the very richest kids in Bangkok.  AUA at the time charged students something like 1200 baht for a 30 hour course -- ridiculously low by Bangkok standards (which goes a long way towards explaining the somewhat dismal hourly rate).  This means that you get to teach students from all walks of life, not just the rich kids whose parents are trying to send them abroad.  I found this mix of middle-class students to be very hard working and the teaching more fun than work.  Two years later, I still keep in touch with several students.  Not trying to slam or generalize the Bangkok elite, but I felt I was treated with respect as a teacher by the students there, not as another member of the hired help.  My students were composed of everything from high-schoolers to young business managers, secretaries to ex-bargirls, even a few non-Thais, Koreans and Russians who'd come there for the bargain basement prices.

Although I was qualified and experienced, I was assigned a mentor who was to spend and hour a day with me for the first month.  I was paid for this hour (so I taught 3 hours a night, paid for 4) and the mentor was cool and very laid back - spent most of the time showing me around the place and letting me know where all the materials were.  I was given all the necessary books and materials, including teacher's guides, and AUA-specific teachers guides, which pretty much walked you through the lesson step-by-step.

They have a dozen filing cabinets full of photocopies of everything you need for class -- go to the appropriate level and week, and voila - everything you need, copied and ready to go.  If you have something of your own you want to add, you've got to show up a bit early and get someone to sign off on it, but if they feel it's valuable, they'll make copies and put it in the file -- so you only have to do this the first time.  After a few weeks, preparation time dwindles down to almost zero.

The facilities, though a little aged, are excellent.  Entering the building is like going into a high-school campus, with a canteen, coffee shop -- lots of relaxed opportunities to interact with the students.  If you're interested in socializing a bit with the students outside the classroom, there are lots of opportunites, as the students show up a bit early for coffee or even dinner at the canteen.

Yes, working five days a week will net you 20-24k a month -- but you're only working from 5pm to 9pm everyday, which goes by very quickly.  I wasn't there long enough to get into the Saturday classes, which start every quarter, but every new teacher is required to sign up for the first 2 available quarters - after that it's optional.  However, Saturdays pays more than double the hourly weekday rate, and if you want to work 6 hours on Sat, you can get your pay into the 35-40k range. 

Mon-Fri classes run 6 weeks at a time, with a week's holiday in-between.  Towards the end of your contract, you can sit out one of these 6 week courses if you need a longer holiday.  Now, both the week and six week breaks are without pay, but if you're coming to Thailand to do a bit of travelling as well, it's nice to have the time to do so.

All in all, yes, the pay is lower than a lot of other places, but the work is dead easy, all adults, no kiddies, air-con classrooms, plenty of materials, pre-set curriculum, lots of opportunities to meet decent Thai folks, tons of vacation time if you want it -- when I return to Thailand, I'll be back on AUA's doorstep.

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Re: AUA
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2006, 10:22:41 pm »
From what I hear, some are good and some are bad.?

Worked at three AUA branches. Korat was good but Huamark and Rayong were VERY bad.
Now I am based at Thonburi, so far so good............

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Re: AUA
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2006, 04:45:06 pm »
I went for an interview at the Rajdamri office and was told 'no jobs here'  but as the interview drew to a close the guy was quite impressed by what I had to say  ( I have done a bit of teaching elsewhere) and suddenly realised there was a position after all. He seemed a nice guy, Canadian I think. I got home and did a few calculations, I was new to LOS and struggling with currency conversions,  and I realised that i couldn't have the lifsestyle I wanted on that salary, so I said no thanks .
I wrote a polite note telling them why I wasn't going to sign up with them , money/lifestyle expectattions etc. I received a howling reply back from one of the managers accusing me of being mercenary and he was 'glad that the interview process had weeded out someone who was not committed to teaching' !  My gast was flabbered.
I saw a couple of gentlemen in the office with pony tails and base ball caps. I hope  they weren't teaching like that. Am I old fashioned?

 

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