Topic: Niva International School - good, bad or indifferent

[goo]

Anyone got any info on Niva International School on Lat Phrao? Anything good or bad, I just want to know the lowdown.

Thanks

Simon

[ladyteacher]

I had the great misfortune to work there some time ago, the school owner /principal is a total religious greaseball freak who despises most Europeans . The school staff are probably the most insular surly bunch of wanna bee's one could ever wish to meet .

In many cases (the staff) are totally unqualified and indeed vicious rumour mongering backstabbing scum intent on preserving their own self interests .

Bibles in one hand dicks (if the've got them ) in the other hand to shaft the unsuspecting employees and fellow staff members,native English speakers are indeed in the minority open arms to the rejects of Europe who are unable to find gainful employment elsewhere .

Religious indoctrination, mis-managment and lies, that is Niva International School for you, I was indeed the happiest person alive when I shook the dust from my feet upon leaving Niva .

[admin]

in the interest of transparency, I am posting a PM I received from the school in question. I have asked them to come on the forum to state their own opinion. Ladyteacher seems to have a lot of problems with former schools and I might have been inclined to clean up the post, but I will not delete as requested by the school. This PM should show that the school is upset with the post made and hopefully they can come on here and fully state their opinion, but until they do, this is the only word from them:

Site Administrator
www.teflwatch.org

To Whom It May Concern:

We just want to inform you that some forum contents as found on the link below:

http://www.teflwatch.org/forum/index.php?topic=444.msg2892#msg2892

seems to be inappropriate and considered defamatory to Niva International School.

Such content should not be allowed in any forum and should be deleted immediately before legal actions are put into place against the posters and site owners.

If you have any information regarding the complete names of the posters, please coordinate with us.

Thank you very much for your immediate response.

ENGR. EDAN BOY A. PEDRAGOSA
IT MANAGER
NIVA INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL

Greetings!

I found your forum interesting, however may I request you to delete the following post which is against the forum rules I belive. Please delete the following post in your message board >>>>>> http://www.teflwatch.org/forum/index.php?topic=444.msg2892#msg2892 which is  totally defamatory. Please refer to additional post she made >>>>> http://www.teflwatch.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=147;sa=showPosts. That will show the user behind the username doesn't understand how to properly post in a forum. I respect her personal opinion however I am a member of the organization she is referring to and I find it very offensive. To qoute her

 " The school staff are probably the most insular surly bunch of wanna bee's one could ever wish to meet Big Cry.
In many cases (the staff) are totally unqualified and indeed vicious rumour mongering backstabbing scum intent on preserving their own self interests Jerkoff.

Bibles in one hand dicks (if the've got them ) in the other hand to shaft the unsuspecting employees and fellow staff members,native English speakers are indeed in the minority open arms to the rejects of Europe who are unable to find gainful employment elsewhere Beatnik.
Religious indoctrination, mis-managment and lies, that is Niva International School for you".

These are baseless accusations if ever she has a problem with the management and being educated as she thinks she is complains should be taken to the court and not on a public forum.

Please delete those post. Thank You Very Much!

[Bangkok Phil]

I'm not taking sides but ladyteacher isn't doing the cause any good at all.
'religious greaseball freak'
'bibles in one hand dicks (if they've got them) in the other'
'backstabbing scum'

Come on man. Can't you write something better than that?
I'm surprised myself that this has been allowed to stay.

[Uncle Che]

And the funny thing was that it was due to be deleted because ladyteacher seems to have problems with other schools and this didn't seem to fit the definition of valid complaint for the forum. If Boy and Ephraim had not threatened the site and instead said "hey this post isn't nice, can you look at it as it is not a constructive post" then I would have cleaned up the post at the very least.

Of course threatening the site with legal action, asking for the real names of posters, and asking me delete it immediately will not work. In fact because of the messages sent to me by the two Filipinos, Ladyteacher's comments will stay since changing or deleting them now can be seen as kowtowing to a school.

The unfortunate thing is that the mere threat is more negative publicity about the school than Ladyteacher's posts. In fact, I was concerned that the threats were coming from a rival school and verified that the ip address of both Filipinos matched up with Niva International School's site.

[Shatapon]

These are baseless accusations if ever she has a problem with the management and being educated as she thinks she is complains should be taken to the court and not on a public forum.

Tee hee.

At least the second poster/threatener has a dry and ironic sense of humor! 

[NamTok]

   I voted to overnight express Niva International School to the Hall of  Shame. Additionally, I believe Uncle Che makes the excellent point that allowing the postings to stand as they are self-exposes Niva.

   If and when schools can succeed---and none have or I'm sure shall---in muzzling or intimidating TeflWatch then TeflWatch would have lost all of its considerable and increasing effectiveness. The same would become true of any similar website. This threat to sue anyone who posts regarding Niva IS cannot be allowed to stand without consequence.

   So I believe these two courses of action are the most effective way by which TeflWatch can deal with this first threat. Express routing to the Hall and leave the postings as they are.

   As to Ladyteacher, I think she can write up a storm! I sort of like her colorful and direct language, especially her concluding statement about shaking the dust off her feet with great relief as she left Niva. I respect that some can find her strident language offensive but, I would also remind everyone that we're all grownups here. Nonetheless, I think we can see that there are two strong forces butting heads here. At sites such as TeflWatch the one who wants to sue is always the bad guy. And dangerous enough to merit immediate and forceful consequence and support.

   To the Hall with you, Niva! Retain all postings on the thread, please.

[Kent F. Kruhoeffer]

^ Hello NamTok   


The fact that nobody (so far) has corroborated the OP's comments

makes me just a tad suspicious that the post may have been

an act of retaliation or a vendetta of some kind.


i.e., I'm not willing to draw conclusions

based on the comments of 1 person.

[Mods-Rockers]

Whilst I am appalled at the silly threats made to this service, I tend to agree with Kent on this, the OP has not been corroborated and I believe admin was going to move it to sour gripes if not for the threats.

My own take on the threats is that they come from two silly teachers trying to ingratiate themselves to the school, of course it could also be that they are merely patsies for the school who have been told to pass on the threats. Either way I believe that they are in a catch 22 position. as the threats have clearly failed it tends to make the school look bad and thus their positions may well be in danger because they made the school look a lot worse than it may be, the flip side is that if the school did set it up they can now claim ignorance of the plan and again the two teachers positions are in danger.
Seems to me now that if it were the latter scenario and I was one of those teachers I would be doing some major damage limitation, if the school did use them as patsies but they made it public before any sacking theen the school would look like a real big sack of doodoo and truely deserve the hall. if the school was innocent then they, should punish the teachers but not sack them. but hey this is thailand and back stabbing is a national pasttime.

[Mods-Rockers]

I hope that made sense, I am the wrong side of too many hot rum toddies trying to shift a cold. In the morning when i read it i will most likely think i am a fool.

[Dumbo]

Yeah I know that, Kent. No one else has corroborated the OP. Only one thing though, I personally wouldn't want to work for a school that threatens a lawsuit against any teacher who opposes them. It sounds like the other Hall of Shame school, EF Chiang Mai(?). These guys are asking for full names of the teachers in order to file a lawsuit against them.

 

ModsRocker: I never thought of that one. Maybe it is and aren't we supposed to be pro-teacher, even if the teachers  are scabs? Maybe we should just see how this plays out and maybe these two guys will do what admin had suggested and post about the school. I sure would like to see an honest report about the school.

[Kent F. Kruhoeffer]

^ Agreed, Dumbo


No disrespect to the OP intended. 


If 2 or 3 people jump in & support the assertions made above,

I'll glady eat my post, do 10 Hail Marys and confess my sins.


Kidding aside; my gutt feeling is that the threat of legal action

was more of a knee-jerk reaction than a serious challenge,

especially since it was a PM rather than a public post.

[Mods-Rockers]

Yes Dumbo we are pro teacher, the problems occur when we have teacher against teacher as it appears to be in this case.

[snottgoblin]

An interesting post regarding " Niva International School " I actually worked there some time ago (about a year and a half back as I recollect). Sad to say the opinions posted by " Lady Teacher " are all rather similar to mine and other departed teaching staff experiences.

One needs to work there (Niva) to understand the complexity of the Philipino Mafia and the delight they take in being spiteful and malovent to others not of their religious and racial persuasion.This is all done with the tacit approval of the school owner, prayers prior to staff meetings come now is this the criteria for a balanced school management team I ask ? The religious cant in and out of the school can best be described as "rabid", this applies from the top to the bottom of the school hierarchy regardless of whatever religious views one may hold if any.

I would make an educated guess and suggest that the threating post were made at the behest of the school owner who has been described as a somewhat unpleasant person .I do agree with that description,the amount of staff that have passed through this particular school is indeed amazing,however the school keep the staff turnover covered by recruiting from within the psuedo Philipino religious mafia network both here and from the Phillipines.

In short.Yes, Lady teacher may be accused of having an attitude, yet the threats that have been made to the forum and the original poster I feel reinforce and back up the comments made by the original poster in this matter.

I ask that the operators of this forum keep up their good work, I feel that if the school carry on rattling their sabres they will soon break, perhaps the fact that a number of the school teaching staff are not able to
prove their qualifications or are not in possession of a valid work permits or the correct visa catergories may well come to light as the result of any implied action by Niva !!

Being Burmese, Indian Vietnamese etc in Thailand is not a wonderful choice especially if they are bending the rules surrounding working here, People in glass houses should not throw stones.

[NukeThemSlowly]

I think anyone stupid enough to send threats such as those to a site with a purpose like that of this one deserves to be humiliated, laughed at, and then fired, after taking the blame.  I have no patience at all for such despicable behavior, whether or not their boss asked them to do it.  Perhaps it will teach the other flunkies to let the boss do his own dirty work.   

I also agree the thread should stand and the school should be shamed, mainly because the threats were sent.  A strong example needs to be set for other schools who may try the same sort of doodoo.