Topic: Bangkok Christian College

[Mods-Rockers]

I have no personal gripe with BCC, I freely admit I find the 20K ransom money to be an anathema, however, if people choose to accept it then so be it. In reality it is the boards way of saving face for the clusterfucks they made in recruitment in the past, they seem to have improved their recruitment policy and one would hope that the ransom would therefore be dropped in the foreseeable future. If that were to happen then I would hope that BCC could be out of the HoS.

I do feel that Los_Teacher does have a very salient point when he points out that the only posts by current teachers (possibly with thaighlander as an exception) have been positive, and seemingly the gripes are only coming from those bitten in the past.

Many people castigated Namtok/Pibthong/canemyass for constantly griping about an incident that was in the past, I feel the same also should hold true regarding any school. Unless the gripe is up to date then does it really have a place on this board? What happened in the last academic year to me is relevant what happened before that whilst very often still fresh in some peoples minds is hardly relevant. Holding grudges kills the soul, and very rarely has any form of positive effect.

[hero]

How about it Thighlander, when were you at BCC? 

I apologise if you have already stated - I have read all the posts on this thread, I just don't recall that information and haven't the time to go back and check every post!

 

[freedom fighter]

Well, well, well.

I have just spent many long hours reading these posts and, having absorbed the salient information, feel that I am now in a position to offer up my unqualified, unbiased, Solomonic judgement.

It is clear to see that BCC has produced mixed levels of service to it's teachers.  Some teachers are quite clearly loyal to the school and that must surely be counted to its credit.  However, the number of posters and amount of complaints that have been levelled against this school cannot easilly be dismissed. 

It is clear that the school has not been ethical with some of its practices and its treatment of staff.  If you, the reader, wish to work for this school I suggest you 'roll the dice' and take your chances; who knows, you might be one of the luckier ones who gets good treatment there.

It is said that a reputation is as made of glass, one small crack and it is rendered useless.  BCC would do well to remember this in future.  Whilst there have been many positive posts in defence of the school, the negatives are the ones that will remain in the minds of the readers. 

If a man lies to one person but speaks truthfully to nine others is he a truthful man, as claimed by the nine, or is he a liar, as contended by the one?  Whether you lie once or whether you mistreat your staff once, it is this action that will brand you. 

I, for one, have no sympathy for a school that alters contracts or manipulates clauses to avoid payments, whether it be lawful or not, it is UNETHICAL and IMMORAL!  For these reasons alone I condemn BCC to wallow in the recruitment abyss that is THE HALL OF SHAME where they shall find no rest for a period of not less than twelve months!  (hammer drops)  Case dismissed.

Judge Freedom Fighter

[docendo_discimus]

los_teacher, I am not sure who you are, but I am guessing we were in the same office this year. I agree with everything you have said here. Thank you for being so objective and offering accurate information.

Look,
I have taught in the West. I am fully qualified.
I passed my FBI background checks and worked in the US public school system. It was there I met with more rude, back-stabbing and insolent behavior than felt I wanted to deal with. I have worked in Europe as a university lecturer and now I'm in Thailand. I am neither a pervert nor a criminal. I just wanted to learn more about the world and different cultures.

I have clearly stated what I have experienced at BCC, and how I felt about it. I don't think the administration is flawless, but I have never felt taken advantage of or grossly mistreated. To be quite honest, I have been more offended by some of the things written above than I ever have been by any "rude" Thai teacher. Some of the comments are downright nasty and unnecessary.

As for the 20,000 Baht deposit, everyone gets it back, with interest, unless they just take off without notice. I am happy to have that money in savings. I don't view it as ransom, many of us don't have problem with it.
I feel I made the right decision in returning to BCC. I like my students and quite a few were motivated to make an effort. I am looking forward to working with them again in the new school year. Oh and I made the decision to return long before I heard of the raise.

It's clear some people are unhappy with BCC and they are entitled to their opinions, but to question the judgment, qualifications or integrity of teachers, who are committed to getting their programs revamped and running smoothly-- People who see things improving and want to stay the course -- is just despicable.

[Thighlander]

How about it Thighlander, when were you at BCC? 

 

I was there when: the student's behavior was horrible, the foreign teacher's behavior was worse, and the Thai admin's yet still worse.  It was when they didn't supply toilet paper.  Before John Karr, but after they had fired another pedophile.  It was when the free lunch was disgusting.  Visa/WP paperwork was a huge headache.  The traffic was awful, and it was hotter than hell.  Also, some terminated teachers were threatened with deportation if they posted about the school.  There was absolutely no mentoring program for new teachers; they were simply yelled at, terminated, and replaced.  There was a cool farang administrator, who was great at PR.  Unfortunately, the cleaning ladies had more clout with the Thai Admins.

Does that narrow it down for you?

[Thighlander]

We haven't heard from JJ in a long time.  Is he still vacationing at Neverland Ranch?

[bawpenyang]

I say that there is a shortage of teachers. We have illustrious Bangkok Christian College advertising for teachers on May 9th, 2007. I was interviewed here once last year by an American who told me to come in "tomorrow" to meet the board. Lo and behold, he phoned me the next morning to say that the female had hired a teacher. I feel myself lucky!

[bkkman]

I was told there was a very long post criticizing BCC made
here on May 10th.
But it does not seem to be here now.
Can anyone tell me what happened to it or where I can find it ?
Thanks

[hero]

I don't know.  By the way, there is nothing in the recycle bin either.  There was a post deleted on May 10th, but it was a sather shambolid attempt to slag off colleagues and unrelated to BCC.

Hero

[Thighlander]

Bkkman,

Could you please tell us what happened to JJ.  After all, he was the PR spokesman for the entire school year.  We can't go to the website, as BCC does not maintain information on its staff.  I guess turnover is just to rapid.

[bkkman]

TH,
I do not know who JJ is.
Sorry

[Andy]

All good threads must come to an end. This thread is very informative as a historical thread on events at BCC. We have opened a new thread to talk about current issues at BCC.

http://www.teflwatch.org/forum/index.php/topic,1305.0.html