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Offline Jon

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EF/English First Thailand
« on: January 24, 2006, 04:33:13 PM »
I?ll write this 3rd person and distort the name of the school slightly so as to protect the author from Thailand?s defamation laws. After you read, you?ll understand why, and I?m sure you?ll realise the identity.

I?d like to relate an experience at English F**** (EF) Chiang Mai, but first some background:

On January 19th 2005 The DoS (AKA Academic Director) of EF Chiang Mai discovered very irregular practices with the franchisee?s (EF?s representative) management of the franchise. On January 21st 2005 the DoS left the employ of EF?s representative, at the time he felt the departure was amicable.

On October 11th 2005 EF?s representative, after a long criminal investigation, was charged with criminal fraud at Mae Ping Police Station Chiang Mai. The charge book is open to the general public to confirm this information.

Subsequent to the DoS leaving EF:

1. EF?s representative didn't pay his DoS his last month's salary. The salary (minus annual leave) was later recovered through Chiang Mai Labour Court on 29th March 2005. Bank of Ayudhya Cheque No. 0025318, Account name xxx xxxxxxxx Co., Ltd. Account number 3190003002.

2. Soon after departure from EF a photocopy of the passport details of the DoS and a cover page with EF?s letterhead was faxed to many schools in the area he worked stating the DoS was no longer an employee of EF Chiang Mai. It was unsigned and didn't give the reason why the teacher had left.  This may have been an attempt to discredit the DoS and prevent him from finding future work in Chiang Mai.

3. To protect his reputation the DoS sent an Email to his former teachers explaining the circumstance of his sudden departure. EF?s representative used his brother's translation of the Email to attempt to have criminal defamation charges brought against the DoS (max penalty is PRISON) at Phu Ping Police Station Chiang Mai about late Feb. A recorded delivery summons to attend this police station as a suspect was received by the DoS. Subsequently the investigating office cancelled this meeting and no further contact has been attempted by the investigating officer.

4. In addition EF?s representative sued the DoS for 5 million baht damages, as an alleged result of this Email, at Chiang Mai Civil Court using as evidence his brother's translation. The summons was served to the DoS by an officer of the court the day the DoS walked out of the labour court with his cheque.

5. A translation, prepared by a recognised (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) translation company, for the DoS differs from the franchisee?s at key points in the translation.

6. During the criminal fraud investigation of EF?s representative, the investigating police officer sent a recorded delivery request to the office of the country director of EF requesting certain information related to this investigation. Up to now EF have not responded.

7. The DoS sent Emails to the country director and academic operations manager (AOM) of EF requesting an investigation in to the behaviour of its representative in Chiang Mai. There was no response other than a short statement from the AOM telling the DoS to direct all further correspondence to the country manager.

The legal actions have not been concluded.

The Thai Penal and Civil codes place the onus on the defendant in defamation cases to prove their innocence. In a defamation case the defendant must not only prove they wrote the truth but they must also show they had reason to publicly speak the truth. Recently in Thailand there have been high?profile defamation cases brought by the Prime Minister against his critics. He used the defamation laws to attempt to silence these critics.

I want to ask EF whether this behaviour by one of its representatives is indicative of their policy towards employees who discover fraud at an EF Franchise. Please respond and let the TEFL world know.




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Re: Fraud at EF and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 05:52:34 PM »
Well thats interesting and it certainly means that this company remains on my "wont work for doodoo" list

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Re: Fraud at EF and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2006, 07:17:45 PM »
I prefer English to Legalese, but I am reading again and again, sadly thinking I hate lawyers.

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Re: Fraud at EF and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 11:40:04 PM »
Regardless of the truth of any claims it is a warning to all to document all dealings and to ask for everything in writing. The DoS would not be the first ex-employee to be stitched up for the crimes of his ex-boss, especially in Thailand and not just in the TEFL game.

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Re: Fraud at EF and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2006, 08:17:07 AM »
Yeah, it looks like a lot of legalese to me as well. But franchisees are just that franchisees, each with it's own ownership and management so it is kind of hard to paint all EF branches with the same brush.

The defamation laws are the tricky ones. If I buy a car from Toyota and it is a piece of crap, then I should be able to tell the whole world. You could say something two ways:
"Che is a crazy idiot" or "I think Che is a crazy idiot". One is difficult to prove, the other is very easily to prove. They can't get in your mind and tell you what to think

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Re: Fraud at EF and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2006, 09:04:15 AM »
This company has a bad rep...........which this seems to confirm.

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Re: Fraud at EF and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 09:37:19 AM »
Well, one franchise does not make a bad reputation. Let's see some reports on other franchises in Thailand and then maybe we can make a judgement call on that.

I have heard reports on EF franchises that haven't been positive. But it seemed more of an employee problem than a company problem. Maybe we can get some other reports in here and come to more truth.

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2006, 09:42:09 AM »
Moderator Action on this thread:
-- Title changed to reflect a particular franchise rather than a company in general. This means other threads can be about other branches.
-- Name changed to a F****. I think people can understand just as easily who you mean.

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2006, 12:02:39 PM »
Thanks for your comments.

I agree with Uncle Che that the actions of this franchisee do not necessarily reflect the policy of this company. However, what should be of concern to people is that the country manager never responded to any of my requests for an internal investigation after I discovered very suspicious behaviour within the franchise, and she never responded to a request from the fraud investigating officer at Mae Ping Police Station for information regarding the franchisee and his busines relationship with the plaintiff. She will be forced by each court to attend as a witness, so the querstions will be asked there. Nevertheless, the police feel there was still sufficient evidence to convict the accused of criminal fraud, hence the charge.

I'm going to email various branches/offices of EF and ask them to respond to this thread.

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2006, 12:39:14 PM »
Sounds like a good idea, Jon. I would like to see as many franchises post as is possible and I would like to see people post who have worked at the various branches as well.

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2006, 10:39:33 AM »

An email was sent to all (except Chiang Mai and NakonSi Thammarat) of the EF branches in Thailand yesterday (26th). It was CCed to the country manager. Contact addresses can be found on their website. No contact address for Nakon Si Thammarat.

It contained:

the original post

a link to this site

an invitation to participate in this discussion

Please respond EF and explain or deny your actions.

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2006, 06:33:39 PM »
Come on EF.

Most EF schools in Thailand, the Thai country director and the farang Academic Operations Manager for Thailand have been informed of this thread so why the silence???

Jon

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2006, 01:42:40 PM »
I heard this guy is also advertising an "English Programme" (exact words) provided by EF for academic year 2006/07 on boards around the city. Very few schools are allowed by the Ministry of Education to run EPs (so unauthorized schools call? their progams mep, english plus or bilingual) and as this school is a very small, poor and is just a community Buddhist school For K1 to P6 I think highly unlikely the MoE has approved it. He's charging parents 17000 baht/semester for it. I feel sorry for the parents who may be conned in to paying for this.

PM if you want the schools name.

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Re: Fraud at EF Chiang Mai and its actions against the whistleblower
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2006, 10:47:45 AM »
Come on EF.

Most EF schools in Thailand, the Thai country director and the farang Academic Operations Manager for Thailand have been informed of this thread so why the silence???


I've lost count of the number of times that EF have advertised for an academic director or a country manager. They seem to be positions that are empty more often than they are occupied. That could be the case right now.

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Re: EF Chiang Mai
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2006, 06:33:03 PM »
Update - recently discovered

In Chiang Mai EF's franchisee's father is a partner/shareholder in a company that manufactures Raleigh bicycles from a factory in Rayong.
The previous country manager's brother's company sells lubricants to this factory.
This may explain the previous country manager's actions/relationship with the franchisee.


I understand the country manager (K. Ch*********) at the time of these events, has now left the company.

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