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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2006, 10:31:04 PM »
When this school opened in June of 2004 it had 1 principal and a highly competent group of about 25 native English speakers which were frequently described as one “one of the best groups of teachers seen in a Thai bilingual school”, however, since that time there have been 4 principals and 3 or 4 “academic directors” and only 6 or 7 of the original team of native English speaking teachers are remaining, and that’s in just over 2 years. High staff turn over is nothing new to Thai Bilingual Schools, but most schools at least make an effort to hold on to their best staff. Do you think the teachers that left were replaced by teachers of similar ability? Well, to be fair, some were and some weren’t, but there was no-one talking about “the best group of teachers seen in a Thai bilingual school” last time I was there, and do you think those 6 or 7 remaining teachers are looked after and rewarded for sticking by the school through thick and thin right from the start? Not likely; more likely is that the longer you stay, the more you start to see, realize and know about what is really go on. The more you know about what is really going on, the less you will be wanted. It’s only a matter of a short period of time until the entire original team is gone, the other decent teachers leave, and the entire school is over run with average/below average teachers who can exist happily in the knowledge that no-one around them is any better. “So what’s really going on?” you might ask. Well, in a discussion I once had with some of my former colleagues, the conclusion was reached that not one member of the management team has any experience running a school or any idea of how to do so, and to make matters worse, they actually know it, so anyone who may actually have even half an idea of how to really run a school would absolutely not be welcome at this school because of the risk they pose to showing up the current management. Someone would with any idea of how to run a school would ask questions that the management can’t answer, and would become very unpopular very quickly. This applied to teachers also, to the point that a once very vocal group of British teachers were seemingly silenced by the reality that their difficult questions in staff meetings and constant positive suggestions on how to improve things were not welcome. This school had one guy who could have taken the school forward at an alarming rate but now he’s gone (wonder why?).

Even with all the above in mind, unless someone else knows something I don’t, I don’t think it would be fair to put the school in the “Hall of Shame” after all, being incapable of running a school and not looking after teachers aren't crimes. The school management have been known to go back on their word with airfares. They have also been known to cut down promised holidays for the sake of “training”, and if you want to get paid for teaching extra curricular activities then you are probably going to have to fight for it, but other than that you get your visa, you get paid on time, you get your weekends (mostly), you get some paid holidays, and the work isn’t that difficult. There are worse schools out there. 

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2006, 11:33:07 PM »
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being incapable of running a school and not looking after teachers aren't crimes

Crimes against teachers?

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The school management have been known to go back on their word with airfares. They have also been known to cut down promised holidays for the sake of “training”, and if you want to get paid for teaching extra curricular activities then you are probably going to have to fight for it

Guilty as charged, m'lud!

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other than that you get your visa, you get paid on time, you get your weekends (mostly), you get some paid holidays

Phew

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There are worse schools out there

I'm sure there are, I just hope I never end up in one

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2006, 06:17:43 AM »
   Satit sounds bad but not bad enuff. So where does that leave the situation at present? In need of more specific and detailed information, I would say, as have a few others who've posted so far concerning this school. Will or are there teachers with experience there, past and/or present, who would come forward with the specifics? Let's see....
« Last Edit: August 31, 2006, 06:19:32 AM by NamTok »

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006, 11:50:43 AM »

Invisible makes some valid points, and I can guess who the person is, that said the topic was started about contractual agreements and the breaking of them. Of the original staff I would say that there is only 3 or 4 left as of yesterday. A contract is a contract and should be honored, some people did get their fares paid, one to the USA and the other to China, thats for certain. Management has changed constantly, now we are back to the old way, the one that was removed a long time ago. Curriculum is up in the air, as a parent whose child goes to this school we currently have no idea. Teachers in Upper school are being blamed for poor Maths/English, these teachers inheirited a poor bunch of students, so bad the simple English and Maths understanding is beyond them completely. Teachers get accused of things and blamed because management has no idea, it was a school that had no entrance exam to get in, anyone could come as long as the money was there, the upper school is especially so, although if you believe the web page, OUR KIDS ARE BILINGUAL IN 2 YEARS COMPLETELY!!!  Completely false more like.

Apart from Air Fares these are the other things the school does.

In your last month you pay extra Tax ( Significant Amount )
They say they have overpaid you, so they deduct it
You are stopped Social but dont get till after 4 months
They tax you from Day 1 but it does not appear on your Tor Tor 10 tax form that you have paid
As of yesterday a Teacher was stopped 20000 baht for not signing in this month, about 40% of salary

If this sounds like your place, go ahead and apply,everyone welcome

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2006, 12:54:48 PM »
AF,

Thanks, you have given a good insight into the "extras" that SBS can offer EFL teachers.

Did they give any reason as to why some people had their airfares paid and others didn't?

Anymore info out there that should be put into the public domain?


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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2006, 01:19:47 PM »

Anyonefortennis

As to air fares, they were threats of legal action by one member over this issue. There is a rumour going round about an impending lawsuit. The school will try to avoid any legal cases would be my guess, as if it gets out, students numbers will drop very fast, hope this helps

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2006, 01:30:17 PM »
This school has more problems than you can count. The management has not been stable since opening, gone through at least 4 different directors. They tell you one thing in your opening interview, then when you sign the contract any benefits are missing and your salary is lower than expected. I had an excellent review after my 120 days of probation, they said the bonus I was told I would receive at the end of my contract had been taken away because the previous week the management decided to do away with bonuses. Plus, they were unwilling to raise my salary, to the level discussed. So, as any self respecting person would do, I quit. O0

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2006, 10:49:29 AM »
More chiefs than indians and the admin staff, even the low level ones think they are your boss!! ???

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2006, 12:13:28 PM »
A couple of posts have been removed for violating board policy on making unsubstantiated sexual allegations against teachers at a school.  This board is not the place; try the police.

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2006, 07:26:23 AM »
The School has photographic evidence--any how the police would be bribed!!!!

MSPSL signing off for good---no freedom of speach here---delete that if you will!!


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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2006, 08:11:06 AM »
I don't think anybody will delete your post, what would be the point?

Do you see Teflwatch as a substitute for the police who you consider to be incapable of handling criminal investigations.  I'm not sorry to inform you that you are wrong!  If you think an anonymous web-forum is an appropriate place to make serious criminal allegations then once again you are misinformed!

Cal it a "freedom of speech" issue if you like - the simple fact is that allegations of criminal activity by teachers have no place on this board.  We are not in the business of defending teachers when crimes have been committed, but we are certainly not in the business of allowing unchecked allegations based on invisible evidence to be aired.  It's as simple as that!
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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2006, 08:26:16 AM »
There are many boards out there that allow you or even encourage you to rat out and drag down your fellow teachers. This is not the place. This is the place to speak good and bad about your school, no more, no less.

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2006, 07:02:53 PM »
There is nothing wrong with Satit. They pay well and on time. Has to be one of the highest paying schools I've ever seen. Facilities are good. Very young school, only 2 years old and trying to improve. Every school in thailand steals money. so, i don't understand what's the big deal. how much they steal and who does it is none of my business. all I want to know is that my check is there and on time at the end of the month. The rest of it is T.I.T.

Go tell the police  {j<o> . when they stop laughing let me know what they said about your tickets.

 Let me say that I am full of crap. I agree with myself when I said that I don't know about contracts being broken because they haven't broken mine yet, but this school is still a bunch of bullcrap. How can they get away with stealing the kids money? you know that the students are wondering where their money is going? they have a new building but the learning and the resources for them are not there and they know it. they have told me they would fire ALL management. this is the secondary kids telling me that. even the kids know the school is full of hot air. when I try to help, i am of course ignored to no end. i cannot believe the stuff that comes out at the meetings. you know they still don't know how to test the kids? they can't figure out a schedule to save their lives and by admission of the proncipal, they lost ALL grades for the whole first year the school was opened. they still don't even know how to keep the grades in a centralised location so everyone is fumbling around with floppies and USB sticks with excel spreadsheets like a poor government school. What a freaking joke. I was an idiot. Forgive me...

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Re: Satit Bilingual School of Rangsit University
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2006, 01:57:36 PM »
Well, yet another FARANG gets the boot for apparently no reason!!!!!!!!

Face does not fit obviously.

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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2007, 05:10:43 PM »
I hear they currently need teachers, any updates on what its like there?

Thanks :canada:

 

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