Topic: LPS (Lert Pattana Language School) BKK

[pauleddy]

This outfit is advertising in the "Post" today.

Seems that they do everything including Educational Consultancy, hiring in-house and placement of teachers, non-TEFL teachers (maths, history etc.) and even summer camps.

Anyone have any comments or experiences?

P eddy

[noelbino]

I have worked for them for the last year or so.
Used to/still is the Adanac Education Centre.
Basically they are an agency that places teachers throughout Bangkok, in general English and EP programs
Haven't had any problems at all in my time here.

[Bangkok Phil]

I banned this outfit from advertising on the ajarn jobs board some time ago.
So long ago in fact that I can't remember the reason but suspect it was constantly posting job ads with no information.
I definitely remember us having an altercation or three.

Adanac is an anagram of 'Canada' for those that haven't worked it out yet. I think there was some Canadian connection or maybe still is.

[gary]

My advice is

 DON'T GO NEAR THEM.

The owner of a school I used to work for is a partner in the place, the school is mentioned on this site ? (Panaya school) believe you me the woman is a right twister who forgot to pay me what she owed me when she fired me ?for being sick for two days.

[maxforster]

Our boss is indeed a part of the L.P.S. school and I think she is a good person,it is up to the teachers to do their own groundwork.I came here and I found a post easily becausd I am a professional not a dork.

[hero]

The above post was (slightly) editted by me - please try and stick to the facts and avoid inflammatory statements regarding other posters 

[certified]

Here are 10 reasons to stay away from this place.
1. No work permit
2. frequently cut salary
3. no insurance
4. misleading work assignments
5. spys
6. During school functions you report to the office
7. last minute work projects
8. cheap pay
9. employee double standards
10. telephone harrassment

[ronnie]

Here are 10 reasons to stay away from this place.
1. No work permit
2. frequently cut salary
3. no insurance
4. misleading work assignments
5. spys
6. During school functions you report to the office
7. last minute work projects
8. cheap pay
9. employee double standards
10. telephone harrassment

From recent experience i can confirm 7 of the above to be true.Can i also add...

11. Extremely dodgy contract

[traveler]

No wonder they have so many job ads on Ajarn now.  They must have an opening in every subject they offer!

[bernie]

No wonder they have so many job ads on Ajarn now.  They must have an opening in every subject they offer!

Read the posts above and you'll understand why.Can the last one out please turn out the lights.

[dwwin]

Here are 10 reasons to stay away from this place.
1. No work permit
2. frequently cut salary
3. no insurance
4. misleading work assignments
5. spys
6. During school functions you report to the office
7. last minute work projects
8. cheap pay
9. employee double standards
10. telephone harrassment

From my very recent experience all of the above are still true.
3. no insurance promised, never given
4. completely misleading work assignments
7. last minute work projects that keep changing every 5 minutes

[certified]

Yes, this establishment continues to show little  for their often overworked and underpaid teachers.

[chuck_S]

Well, i do see LPS advertising sometimes, but I do know some who do work for them. They are retired and need a work permit to stay here in Thailand for a while. They say, basically. To keep their distance from LPS and you will do ok, keep your ears clean, etc.

[ajarn1970]

I worked for LPS about a year ago and they pull out the red carpet when you show up. During my interview I decided I didn't really feel comfortable with them and deliberately screwed up tenses and told them "I'm not sure what I would do in that situation....." when they asked me about unruly students. They told me to go out for a cup of coffee, then called me in chuckling and said "We've discussed your application and we're happy to take you". I would have been hired if I'd told them I was on the run for terrorism, murder and drugs charges! 

In short, they're an agency and they look after they're 'clients' and not their teachers. It was one of my first gigs and they put me into a 'prestigious' crappy school in Silom run by a Catholic nun who made Hitler look like a hair stylist.

I ended up calling them giving a piece of my mind telling them they had the weekend to find another teacher. They asked me what could be improved at the school and agency and I replied "Take care of your teachers and shoot the penguin". Funny enough, after a whole spate of teachers left after me they eased the penguin out of office.

I do sometimes do some agency work, but only part time and on my own terms.

I'm not saying don't go near LPS......they do help first starters get experience and they have their place in the jungle; but just don't expect a long term satisfying career with them. Use them just as they'll use you and everyone wins 

[noelbino]

Having worked there for a number of years here's my 2 Baht's worth.

Here are 10 reasons to stay away from this place.
1. No work permit
2. frequently cut salary
3. no insurance
4. misleading work assignments
5. spys
6. During school functions you report to the office
7. last minute work projects
8. cheap pay
9. employee double standards
10. telephone harrassment

From my very recent experience all of the above are still true.
3. no insurance promised, never given
4. completely misleading work assignments
7. last minute work projects that keep changing every 5 minutes

1. Don't profess to know every teacher ,but the dozen or so I know have theirs. It certainly wasn't hassle free and took longer than it should have, but issued nevertheless.
2.Hasn't happened to me. You need to ask yourself why it was cut. I would expect taking time off.
3. Have had mine for all of these years and the other teachers I know have theirs.
4.You are assigned to a school and assigned a subject where you expressed proficiency. You are given assistance with lesson plans and lesson themes. The rest is up to you.
5. There were a couple of self-proclaimed ex-CIA types, but they were soon outed. One bloke wrote MICROPHONE on a piece of paper and handed it around while pointing at the ceiling of the teachers' room. The same guy writes his PIN on the back of his ATM cards, so you go figure.
6. While the school is open you do all your work there. When it's closed you go to the office. Not unreasonable to expect you to go to work for your pay!!
7. Completely wrong! They change every 4 minutes.
8. Average plus for an agency.
9. Teachers having double standards???
10. Why???
11. You are given a contract to read, you can then discuss/negotiate any changes [you most likely won't get everthing you want, but try anyway]. If after that you still think it's dodgy, WALK AWAY go somewhere else. If you sign it, you have accepted so you can't say it's dodgy.
Al in all:- do your job, keep your nose clean and they are OK

[fed_up]

Having worked there for a number of years here's my 2 Baht's worth.

From my very recent experience all of the above are still true.
3. no insurance promised, never given
4. completely misleading work assignments
7. last minute work projects that keep changing every 5 minutes

1. Don't profess to know every teacher ,but the dozen or so I know have theirs. It certainly wasn't hassle free and took longer than it should have, but issued nevertheless.
2.Hasn't happened to me. You need to ask yourself why it was cut. I would expect taking time off.
3. Have had mine for all of these years and the other teachers I know have theirs.
4.You are assigned to a school and assigned a subject where you expressed proficiency. You are given assistance with lesson plans and lesson themes. The rest is up to you.
5. There were a couple of self-proclaimed ex-CIA types, but they were soon outed. One bloke wrote MICROPHONE on a piece of paper and handed it around while pointing at the ceiling of the teachers' room. The same guy writes his PIN on the back of his ATM cards, so you go figure.
6. While the school is open you do all your work there. When it's closed you go to the office. Not unreasonable to expect you to go to work for your pay!!
7. Completely wrong! They change every 4 minutes.
8. Average plus for an agency.
9. Teachers having double standards???
10. Why???
11. You are given a contract to read, you can then discuss/negotiate any changes [you most likely won't get everthing you want, but try anyway]. If after that you still think it's dodgy, WALK AWAY go somewhere else. If you sign it, you have accepted so you can't say it's dodgy.
Al in all:- do your job, keep your nose clean and they are OK

Haven't worked there, but judging from the tone of your post, wouldn't want to either...