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Offline ajarnnormal

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Culture license
« on: June 07, 2007, 12:41:07 pm »
Hi everyone. Nice to be back. Has anyone heard of this one? I was recently asked to fill out a form at the school I teach at applying for a Culture License. I was told that it is now another requirement for the MOE and WP. I gave 3 pics and copies of my passport but did not actually sit a test. The license is valid for 5 years so I am told. Hardly seems to natch all the other documents you have to have with a WP for one year a TL for three years etc.

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2007, 01:00:36 pm »
Well, mate.  We all were asked for 500 baht for something like that.  They sent it away with a few copies of stuff and that was the last we heard.  As far as I know everything was OK, there has been talk of a test but nothing concrete.

I've heard similar stories from others.

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 07:36:08 pm »
thais dont even have a culture, thats just an excuse to have the white man pay for everything


real thai culture is
gamble,beat up your wife, rip off foreiners


and yes i am synical

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 08:39:28 pm »
Air, are we having a bad day?

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 08:48:08 pm »
AN,

I heard a while back in order to get a TL you would have to have a course in Thai culture if you had been teaching for less than 4 years at your current school.

A culture license, perhaps the management was thinking a TL and getting aquainted with Thai culture was part of it.  Beats me dude.  I contributed 500B last November to the TL fund and haven't heard anything yet.


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Re: Culture license
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 09:25:45 pm »
Yeah, I did that the same time too, that's what it was! i've got some booklet, but it is all in thai, actually I might take another look at that on Monday, see what it's all about, perhaps I can get it translated and fill you in on the details, hmm interesting a thai culture licence, I guess actually they have this skyscraper (well something like 20 floors) near pin klao which provides the basis of thai culture for all the students in wherever possibly thailand maybe bangkok, they are really strict, did you see or hear about the model who got banished, sacked, flocked because she wore a dress which was deemed inappropiate to thai culture standards, hmm I won't voice my opinions, however it would seem that possibly we're going to have to sit some more exams, interesting, I guess from my experiences I have learnt the hard way about thai culture so possibly it might be worth 500 baht if we actually do get to learn something that aids us in someway shape or form.

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2007, 08:39:33 pm »
The longer I stay in Thailand, the less I understand about Thai culture.

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2007, 09:41:00 pm »
The longer I stay in Thailand, the less I understand about Thai culture.

Try marrying a Thai, even worse a sino-Thai, it gets worse :)

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2007, 07:48:46 am »
thais dont even have a culture, thats just an excuse to have the white man pay for everything


real thai culture is
gamble,beat up your wife, rip off foreiners.......
......hit and run accidents, DUI {j<o>, helping foreigners falling of balconies :axechase:, backstabbing, paying for good grades (I think it's called corruption >:D), etc, etc......

No, I'm having a good day, as always.

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2007, 01:36:01 pm »
I think it's called wild, scum like behaviour, I do not think all Thai people are that way inclined though, I mean sometimes their civility is extremely over the top.

If you observe some Thai's behaviour you will see there are some good natured people, it would seem the jai yen yen approach sometimes has a negative effect though because they are too polite to mutter their grievences, they will approach you but in a roundabout fashion, then all of a sudden they are really annoyed and I think it might be frustration that leads to some inappropiate behaviour.

Then in another aspect of Thai culture the young cannot question the authority of their elders which is really nice for the elders but sometimes detrimental to progress (without suggesting there's anything wrong with current progress) as you've heard of the infamous "you cannot teach an old dog, new tricks." Again, I guess frustration might play a part in inappropiate behaviour.

I guess a lot of people in Thailand could be seen as being repressed, frustrated and ill treated, it would seem that when a human is treated properly he or she too treats others in the same respect, ofcourse then there's jealousy and other human traits that turn people into swindlers etc, I guess what i'm trying to say is that if everything in Thailand was more balanced then I think there would be a lot less carnage and destructive behaviour as a result.

People being helped to fall off balconies, well if there is any truth in that then I see that as murder and I cannot condone that, you hear a lot of stories though, wild.


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Re: Culture license
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2007, 09:25:49 pm »
Sad to say Ben, but some of the stories are true.  A Swede was found dead today...cause...death by som-tam (he got the shi_s).  The other common way of death here is stepping out in front of a bus accidentally.  About 3 years ago had a coworker got his arm and leg broke that way. 

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2007, 09:35:03 pm »
 :offtopic: talking of which (the nastiness) have you seen the thai soap operas, I know they're hard to manage but you've got to watch them just for the comedy factor, they are obscene, you know I do admire people like, I can't think of the fella's name, played for man utd, has a bit of a temper, starred in a few movies, snatch etc, begins with J i'm sure, anyway this guy is pretty nasty but the nastiness displayed or portrayed in the soaps is just so passive in comparison, I think in the west we just daren't act in such a manner in fear of getting a few broken bones and a severe kicking, I think i've gone off the point slightly, but Thai's tend to focus on unnecessary (forgive me if i've spelt unnecessary wrong) things such as hurt that little insect and you'll surely have the same back to you someday, well not to put that down at all, but a few fundamentals of nature suggest otherwise such as prey and predator, one just can't take that approach to life since it simply has it's downfalls.

To sum it all up, I don't care that much for spending 500 baht on a culture licence if I get something for it ofcourse, which maybe we won't except the what was it a sixth of a piece of A4 stating names and such, a booklet, who knows hey, anyway I would have rather have had a good meal or a few beers (whoops sorry) for my hard work but I guess possibly someone else is enjoying that privellage, oh well I guess maybe not, we shall see. At the end of the day though boys it is still just 500 baht so no point (I guess) losing too much sleep over, I think to be honest i'm coming to the conclusion like so many that we are slighty undervalued here, does anybody agree?

Anyway for those who have been killed through falling off balconies (possibly helped) and the likes, well my heart is with their families and if the Thai culture way (if your bad to others, then you'll suffer too) does ring true (who knows hey) then fk yeah, although what is that, certainly is no consollation for loss of life (something we can see and appreciate). Then again those without money (i.e those that killed the young women from wales, last year, do truly suffer for their actions) then there is some justice however.............

Regards

ben

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2007, 09:57:13 pm »
Man,

That is truly sickening you know, if true, I mean, it's tragic, but yeah a lot of what is being said and what has been said to me through other posts, fk man, it seems there is little respect for life whatsoever in this place, sh__e, wtf man, in fact why the fk are we here, I don't mean to start a debate, but I am of the opinion that perhaps the best option is to stay the fk away from the place, it would seem a lost cause so to speak.

I have to say that really my heart does go out to all those who have suffered and I am truly lost for words.

Sincere Regards

Ben

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 12:14:17 pm »
Have you noticed how the turn on the Thai culture like a tap when it suites them. " Oh that is against Thai culture" Then stab you in the back.

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Re: Culture license
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2007, 02:45:46 pm »
Some Thais want to supervise you culturally. This of course makes them the superior. Recently a Thai woman at our school was given a little tiny room to teach Thai language to 3 years olds once a week.  She now acts like she is the room owner, and wants everyone to take off their shoes among other "requests".

This is Thai culture to some Thais, treating non Thais as if our culture were nothing at all and can be ignored. There is very little real cultural consideration given to us. To the Thai, its our way or the Highway! We really seem to be subjected to the worst they can get away with, without a fight breaking out. One of my students today told me Thais are always fighting with one another over being disrespected and slighted. So what they say, and write on paper about themselves are 2 different things.

 

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