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Offline billyjenkins

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Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« on: February 17, 2006, 01:05:34 pm »
Well where does one start!
I worked at this school for a long while and I have never seen such bad man management in my life! The 'Academic' section was - and still is - run by a filipino who has been doing the job for many years but still cannot manage to do anything right. The interview generally consists of  A:' Hello. When can you start?' B: 'Don't you want to see my qualifications?' A: Never mind. You look okay. !!
At the start of every school year, there were never books until two weeks into the semester, the timetables or what you were teaching was never known until the last minute. The idea that the school is  bilingual is a joke as the 'Academic Director' now employs ANYBODY regardless of nationality or qualifications!! There are russians, hungarians and a brazilian who can't even string two words together!
The 'Academic Section' is supported by a swedish 'Personnel Supervisor' who hasn't heard of the word 'appraisal' or 'training' who lets the teachers pretty much do what they want! In short be very careful of this school! But if you are non-native go ahead, APPLY NOW!

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 05:51:44 pm »
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I worked at this school for a long while and I have never seen such bad man management in my life! The 'Academic' section was - and still is - run by a filipino who has been doing the job for many years but still cannot manage to do anything right. The interview generally consists of  A:' Hello. When can you start?' B: 'Don't you want to see my qualifications?' A: Never mind. You look okay. !!
At the start of every school year, there were never books until two weeks into the semester, the timetables or what you were teaching was never known until the last minute. The idea that the school is  bilingual is a joke as the 'Academic Director' now employs ANYBODY regardless of nationality or qualifications!! There are russians, hungarians and a brazilian who can't even string two words together!

Yes, I have heard personal accounts from two teachers who used to work at the school and they were not very complientary. They reflected your observations. The school's Director is extremely nice. It's a real shame as the students there were very nice and the school has such a lot of potential.
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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2006, 10:33:05 pm »
As Frederick Foreigner and Willaim Jenkins so rightly put it,

 {j<o> The 'Academic' section was - and still is - run by a filipino who has been doing the job for many years but still cannot manage to do anything right. The interview generally consists of  A:' Hello. When can you start?' B: 'Don't you want to see my qualifications?' A: Never mind. You look okay. !!

                                                                                                       and

  ;D The school's Director is extremely nice. It's a real shame as the students there were very nice and the school has such a lot of potential.

 {j<o> The ******** excuse for a hirer really is a pathetic joke. {j<o> She uses agencies to solely get kick backs from agencies to line her own sweaty pockets. So EVERYONE is hired on the spot regardless of nationality or ability. In all my life i have never met such an incompetent, unorganized, useless, lazy, corrupt, greedy, stupid, credit-takeing, irresponsible  woman. i am glad i left that piece of refuse behind and went to a better bilingual school paying almost twice of udomsuksa. some of the brats are spoiled brats and cannot do any wrong in mommy's eyes. F*****g holy terrors. {}}  good riddance to bad rubbish in that respect, but adieu to a school with potential if    {j<o> ********   {j<o>  was sacked.   >:D
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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2006, 10:14:41 am »
In response to Freddy Farang  I totally agree that it is a crying shame that the school has been allowed to rot! What was once a decent school with qualified,native, caring teachers has now decended into a school with unqualified, non-native teachers with hopeless management. :(

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2006, 08:42:48 am »
I'm glad there is more than one disgruntled employee! I know there are more out there! I am also NOT anti-Udom but I was also one of the few teachers who was there when teachers were pro-active,cared, were concientious and punctual! I know I sound like a broken record but it is a CRYING SHAME that the school has decended into a state of organised CHAOS!
Sack the 'Personnel Supervisor!' Sack the 'Academic Director'! AND get rid of ten or so teachers who come in half-drunk or high as kites!!
Nuff said!!!!


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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2006, 08:48:33 am »
So Udomsuksa has entered the Hall of Shame! About time too! I recently heard that up to 30 students are leaving he school! Why is that? Could it be the top-class teachers? Excellent management? I' m at a loss??!!

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2006, 12:11:57 am »
I don't think I've ever felt so good after reading a post.

I returned to Thailand after a few years in Korea.  I'd had this brilliant idea of using an agency so I'd have a job waiting for me.  I don't recall the name of the firm, though online they appeared to have an office in the U.S. and a man (a woman, as it turned out) was in Bangkok.

The recruitment appears to have been a bait and switch.  Udomsuksa needed a math teacher or some such thing, not another conversation teacher.  I suspect that I had been placed at Udomsuksa with the intent of not being hired so that I could be moved to Ayuthaya.  Fortunately, I did not pay the $300 deposit - refunded after finishing one year -I was told that the recruiter would never be available when you tried to collect it.

I arrived at Udomsuksa well into the second term and can't comment on book availability.  I do recall our Filipina overseer (whom I've since nicknamed Jabba).  She was less than thrilled to learn that I'd been twice married to and twice divorced from Thai women.  I can only imagine how happy she was about my contact with a Filipina on Mindinao.  ("Boastful" was the word she used to describe me.)  And I recall seeing ads in the BKK Post for teachers, with her name as the contact, which made me wonder why she was having trouble filling positions.

I do recall a teacher abruptly leaving.  And I was released after six weeks.  I'll never know if it was Jabba's doing or the recruiter's scheme or something I'd said (all possible).  But I do feel better knowing that others have had trouble.  At the very least, misery loves company.  And maybe, just maybe, I wasn't completely at fault for not being kept on.  I did have a non-im B, and the consular officer at the Los Angeles Thai Consulate even knew the school.

This was over five years ago.  Maybe things were different then.  The foreign teachers certainly were friendly and appeared to all be competant.

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2006, 08:42:51 am »
It seems that all the threads are not about the school as a school but about one person who works there. The basis of which because of that one person and some dodgy agency the school has been dragged down. There is nothing wrong with the school. One person does not make a school bad or good and if you think that you are vey blinkered in you focus on teaching at any school.

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2006, 03:43:42 pm »
So whats the lastest with the school?? I heard from a thai teacher at the that some farang left last week, and have problems with the principle.

This doesn't surprise me, annual turnover of teachers that didn't finish the school year was approximatly 30, that was replacements of replacements or replacements in some cases, only about 7 of the teacher started and finished the full school year and half had been there for years ( some due to no degree so couldn't go anywhere else).

The school is rotting due to incompetance from Jabba,  the Principle and other admin staff.  I'm waiting for them to hire a chimp as a teacher just cause it has a white face and learnt to shave.   
There is a definition of a native speaker of English and its not "has a white face"  but thats what this school seems to think is true.  Hence Russian, Belgiums, Germans etc are all hired here with almost impossible to understand accents to even native speakers.  So how the hell do you think the kids learn English? Or is it exceptable to have thai kids sounding like Poirot, Arnie etc???

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2006, 09:17:05 pm »
the school has been dragged down. There is nothing wrong with the school.

Now it all makes a bit more sense.  "dragged down" explains a lot because the school has so many good points that it should be an ideal place to work.

I mentioned that the foreign staff was very nice.  So was the Thai staff!  Ironically, I had my faux pax because a Thai teacher was being sociable came to by to say hello to the new guy.

(She asked about my first wife and why we'd divorced [a hair-trigger temper was part of it].  When she asked for an example, I gave her one.  I later learned just how offensive a name my first wife had chosen to call me.)

One of the ruling family had just come back from univ. in Oz.  She was always helpful, even helping me in trying to recover a phone I'd lost.  Even the person formerly known as Jabba (and I sincerely regret that choice of a nickname - she wasn't slender and that name could be hurtful if it ever got back to her - perhaps Darth Vadar or Imelda [Marcos] or some historical figure would be a better choice) didn't hesitate in directing me to a nearby and inexpensive clinic for a health ceritificate for the WP (which I never needed, but still, she was helpful).

The school paid on time and in cash.  We had all had co-teachers.  New teachers were often directed to nearby digs.  I had a friendly face knocking on my door the first day to escort me to work.

I can't say that there was nothing wrong.  Some classes were a bit of a trek ("you'll earn your money teaching here!" the director told me) and weren't air-con, but my closet-sized shared "office" was as were the international classrooms, and there were elevators!!!

When I needed a desk in my apt.; the school sent one over!  Now that's service!

I think it's natural to wonder just what happened.  (And I'm sure that not being kept on was at least partly my own fault, but still, I feel less badly about it now that I've seen them on the black list.  Is that an unreasonable or unusual reaction?)

So, just as things began to make sense (the school has been "dragged down" over the past five years), another fly popped up in the ointment.  A teacher at one of my jobs worked there a dozen years ago and remembers "Imelda" as being a pain in the posterior even then. 

(This teacher and I seem to have a flair for finding fun places to work.  We both worked for Udomsuksa, and we've both had to work with you-know-who, everybody's favorite teacher.)

Excuse me if I'm obsessing.  I probably am.  This place keeps turning up in my life.  Back then I lived on LP Soi 80, now I live on LP Soi 8.  While apt. hunting, we saw a place that was across the street from Udomsuksa.  I've since worked for another school that has "Udomsuksa" in its name.  And now I learn that one of my co-workers is a fellow alumni.

Everything's off my chest now.  If anybody has Imelda stories, PM them to me.  Imelda, if you're reading this, I sincerely apologize for using Jabba as a nickname.  It was late, I was tired, and I should never have sent the "SEND" button with that in it. 

P.S. to Imelda:  my Mindinao penfriend and I did not work out though we have met in Dipolog and Tacloban and Dumaguete.  I provided thousands of dollars of assistance to her and her daughter - it's been a real soap opera.  I did remarry, to a Thai, and for perhaps the second time in my life I'm happy.  I also lost most of that excess weight - contact Dr. Dineros in Quezon City if you're interested.

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2006, 04:16:46 pm »
Does anybody ever read my posts? There were more but a weeks worth were lost due to the meltdown mentioned before.
In reply to Ajarnnormal, yes it is one person everybody is on about because everything eminates from her! Jabba does the interviewing and employs ANYBODY who will grunt. SOOOOOOO because of this you have a school full of winoes and people from the eastern bloc with my favourite Brazilian thrown in. So when she is gotten rid of the school can only improve!

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2006, 10:31:07 am »
Ok Billy I see the point you are trying to make. It is a shame I agree. I am sure you know why Jabba is there.

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2006, 11:58:49 am »
Sorry Ajarnnormal. If it seemed I was having a 'pop' at you , that wasn't the case! I'm glad you see the point. I just feel for Pittwater House who are a very reputable company with good teachers. Udom got rid of one pest who called himself 'The Ajarn' so maybe, eventually the director will see the light and let 'Jabba' go. Privately I would be interested in why you think she is unsackable as I have my own ideas on this subject.

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2006, 05:13:22 pm »
Billyjenkins - Please do not refer to you know who as Jabba because that is a great insult - to the original Jabba! Has she started her agency yet? "The Ajarn" was fairly harmless but he did tend to give his students too much homework. Is the guy who used to be paid weekly still there? Another one who ought to be sacked is the poison dwarf - one of the most ignorant people that I have ever met.

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Re: Udomsuksa School Ladprao
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2006, 11:11:07 am »
I'm intrigued! Who is the poison dwarf? It's been a while since I worked there. Could you be on about a certain filipino who works in the office??

 

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